The Follow Interview with the Executive
Producer/Writer and Director of Maggie and Annie, Kimberly K.
Wilson was conducted by Lynne Hancock of
Out Takes Film Festival of
Lynne: What is
your film Making background? Was it film School, an
opportunity to work on another indie film or...?
KKW: I came to
California to be a writer mainly but thanks to the DV age I was
able to produce and direct one of my scripts. I have went
to several film schools but most notable the Hollywood
film Institute. Maggie and Annie is my first feature.
We are now in pre-production on my second film.
often found that story lines found in indie films from lesbians
are drawn from personal experience. It that the case with
Maggie and Annie?
KKW: Yes it
did come from a personal experience sort of. I was heavy
into writing another script when I went out one weekend to play
softball. There I met (the Annie character) At that
moment I fell totally in love with this
person. The problem was she was married and had a
looked like we the viewers were going to get a happy ending for
everyone. But then boom! Out of nowhere comes a plot
device that wasn't, as far as I could see, foreshadowed anywhere
in the story. Why did you decide on a relatively downbeat
Continuing from the above question-here I was in love with this
married women whom I knew I could never have. A very sad
and depressing situation. Like all writers, when you come
up with an idea you go with it. I thought what if a
married women fell in love with a lesbian. Great husband, adorable daughter, wonderful
family life. That is when I started writing.
The Characters took over from there. I didn't want this as
an ending and when it happened I cried my eyes out writing it.
I felt it was really the only ending I could have written.
Everyone wanted me to make the husband an ass/drunk and have
Maggie and Annie live happily after. I didn't and wouldn't
take the same old Hollywood ending. At least not for my
first film and trying to establish myself in Hollywood. I
needed to go off course. I have taken lots of shit from
the gay and lesbian community about the ending.
First and foremost it is filmmaking and second, everyone in life
doesn't always ride off into the sunset. Ask any lesbian
that has fallen in love with a straight married women that she
was never able to have.
wore many hats, Producer, Writer, Director, was that easy or
difficult for you?
the movie was difficult for a lot of reasons. For one I
did do it all. I wrote it, directed it, cast it, found
locations, and just kissed lots of asses. A must for a low
budget film. You will find your best movies directed by
the writer. The reason why so many big films are bad
is because someone writes a great script with passion and from
the heart, they have this great vision. Then a director or
studio gets hold of it and the true vision is gone.
He/She/several writers gut it and the great vision/story is
ruined. I have several other scripts written that I am
trying to sell and I cringe to think what will happen to them if
someone else directs them.
How did you hear about our Film Festival?
KKW. After is
showed at the Fort Worth Festival I received an Email from Luara
Logan, A Dallas resident whom seen Maggie and Annie and loved
it. She told me about your festival.
Lynne: How has
your film been received at other festivals.
Venues have all been full. The reviews have been
very good overall. The saddest thing about the
festival run was several Gay and Lesbian festivals turned it
down because of the ending. That really hurt me.
It is a movie. Reality sometimes does bite. It is a
low budget movie. Cost thousands to make not millions.
If people go in knowing this and just follow the story and the
great acting they will see a great movie.
it down? Well that does suck. Where were your
KKW: All cast
in LA. But of course none of them were born here.
Joy(San Diego), Amy(Washington State) Adam(Pennsylvania),
Jennifier(San Diego) Lizzie (NY) Shannon (Oklahoma) Me
Lynne: Did you
ask your actors to stick closely with the script, or did you
(they stuck to the script) word for word. Out of the whole
movie there may have been five words tossed in. Most
writer directors are sticklers with this. When the writer
is the director they know the script word for word. And
when dialog is added or tossed in more times then not, the big
"CUT" is coming.
Lynne: Did you
have problems finding actors, or funding because the film deals
KKW: As you
seen in the movie the acting is great. I have also been an
LA acting coach for 10 plus years and was trained by some of the
best. That is why I cast it myself. The one
thing about LA is great actors come a dime a dozen. I was
able to get great well trained actors. That is the
one thing I really had control of doing in a low budget film.
Great acting is a must in a low budget film and for me.
That is what I am most proudest of in this film: the acting.
If this was a big budget movie Amy Thiel would be nominated for
an Academy Award for her performance and Joy Yandell wouldn't be
far behind. I truly believe that. About the funding?
I paid for it all. "Ouch" I tried to get funding.
I think as far as funding goes, not getting any had anything to
do with the lesbianism in the film. This is my first
movie. Only a dumb rich relative will give money to a
first time filmmaker. My next film should be easier
getting funding because I have something to show to investors.
I think the Lesbian content in the film kept Hollywood biggies
from doing it, although Drew Barrymore's company had the script
for awhile then past for no good reason why. It was then
optioned by a big production company but eventually they flat
out told me they didn't have the time and effort to put into a
topic like this. Then the DV age came along and also the
making of Maggie and Annie.
back on the film, it there anything you wish you'd done
differently, good or bad?
KKW: I would
have love to do lots of things differently but with the money
and time I had to do it I did the best that I could have done.
What I accomplished with Maggie and Annie cannot be described.
The only ones that will ever be able to understand what I went
through are the people that have done what I did. A brief
rundown on the making of Maggie and Annie. Myself and
producer/best friend Loni Martinez did all the preproduction.
I cast it, and did all the contracts. We had only 16 days
to film so we filmed 16 straight days 12-16 hours a day.
Yeah, it was non-union. The cast and crew were worriers.
In the sixteen days I watched my life savings and more go out
the window. People can rip apart the tech part of the
movie but they have no idea what I had to work with. As
for the ending I would not change it.
Lynne: Can you
tell us about your next project?
Maggie and Annie I have nine feature scripts penned.
My next project that I decided to do was based on what I could
film the cheapest. Not what I really wanted to do.
It is kind of based on a true story about this Man I once met.
He was obsessed with these dancers at a place called the Chee
Chee Club. That is the name of the film. He becomes
so obsessed that he goes seven days a week and of course it ends
in tragedy. It is in pre-production and we are still
trying to get more funding. I will never do another low
budget film like Maggie and Annie. Maggie and Annie
has helped me in getting investors to listen to listen to me and
hand me over money. That is why you need to make a
first film no matter how you do it.
The Chee Chee Club is budgeted at $500,000
I have a ways to go. I could probably do it for $200,000
but then we will be cutting our ourselves short. My goal
is to get the Chee Chee Club made, and find success, and then be
established enough as a writer and director that I can do any
project I want. I just finished a script - I feel is my
best to date. It is about a lesbian Hollywood makeup
artist that falls in love with a married Bisexual. The
bisexual and her husband are sex addicts and secretly film the
two women having sex then they befriend her. She loses it
and becomes a master of disguises and makes their lives a living
hell. She rules and yes she does ride off into the
sunset at the end. I am hoping that can be my third film.
But like I tell all Filmmakers/Actors and people in general, in
this business the only thing that is guaranteed is that nothing
Lynne : And one last
question, who do you make films for? Who is your Audience,
or do you care?
KKW: My audience is
anyone that likes movies. I consider myself the audience.
When I leave a movie theater I need to be touched somehow.
Weather it is laughing or crying. I need to feel
something. If a filmmaker can do that then they did their
job. That is why Maggie and Annie ended like it did.
I didn't like the ending but as a filmmaker it was my job to
somehow touch the audience and stick to reality as close as
possible. I am a lesbian but my life will not be
writing/making only lesbian films. I wrote an animation I
am hoping to make someday. I don't think our society is
quite ready for two deer to be lesbians in a children's story.